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Vaccinations? Too many? Too Often?
Aug 15th, 2007 at 11:04am
 
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It's always good to be concerned about the health and condition of our be-loved Chow Chow breed.

In many countries there is an excellent pet care and a yearly vaccination against all kind of diseases are very common.

There is regular the question appearing if such vaccinations are worth and bring what is expected and do not harm our pets.

It is all about the immune system and if and how it is affected and so finally the ‘protection’ and so health of our pets.

In the USA Dr. Dodd is claiming and promoting quite some time now that a yearly vaccination should be looked at very critical and that there are a number of unnecessary vaccinations in the scheme.



His ideas can be found on: http://www.itsfortheanimals.com/DODDS-CHG-VACC-PROTOCOLS.HTM

Recently (August 2007) ALL 27 North-American Veterinarian Schools announced to implement Dr. Dodds’ Protocoll.


That means there is quite some progress made in the way scientists and veterinarians are looking now to this “vaccination issue”.

Well, the advice is clear. Discuss this news with your vet and ask his opinion what the best is for your pet.

Keep in mind each pet is unique!!


Last but not least…

The yearly vaccination was always a good reason for a general, medical check-up.

Don’t forget that such yearly check-ups are always good to have!! Maybe less focused on the vaccination.



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Re: Vaccinations? Too many? Too Often?
Reply #1 - Aug 15th, 2007 at 1:26pm
 
Hi Lene,

Since many years I am a member of the german ChowChow Club
too.
2 Weeks ago I got the new clubmagazine and there was an article
too about the same subject,IMFPRAXIS IN DER KTITIK.
Vaccination and criticism.
Yes I know there is a lot of discussion,in Holland too,but don't forget
we live in a small country with the most dogs in the world.Lot's of
contacts,that's unavoideble.

We have a lot of pups coming from east europe,bad vaccination or
not at all Cry Cry

Like in Germany they can bring diseases,like Parvo and Dogsdisease
in german,Staupe

Ofcourse I thought it over too,but until now I don't want to take any
risk. I will wait until there will be an official publication in a medecal
journal.

But it is a good subject,Lynne and Ted
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Reply #2 - Aug 15th, 2007 at 2:47pm
 
In the US, kennels often ask for bordatello (sp?) vaccinations every six months.  I think that's rather a lot for a dog that's rarely at the kennel.  I have to spend an extra $55 just to board Shadow overnight once every year?

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Reply #3 - Aug 15th, 2007 at 3:50pm
 
This is my vaccine protocol and is supported by my vet.. Who by the way was the one to change my mind from old school  vaccine practices...

Pups are given shots at 8,11,14 weeks... I usually dont allow my dogs to leave until 12 weeks of age, as I have CERF tests done on them all and the only time you can REALLY know if your dog has PPM is at 10-14 weeks of age.... Anyway, At 1 year of age they are given a yearly booster, and a rabies vaccine.
From that period on I have titre tests run on them. A titre test runs about $85 dollars US, and will let you know EXACTLY what vaccine your dogs immune system is lacking.
I have done this protocol for 7 years now, and so far so good... Now granted I dont ship dogs to foreign countries, and when they go to Canada, I just drive them across the border and say they are too young for vaccines and so far nothing bad has happened, and they have allowed me to cross, usually the only vaccines at that time    that is missing is the rabies...
Dr Jean Dodd is a wonderful lady... She founded hemapet, and is known for her thyroid and blood work up and being able to find out whats wrong with a chow...
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Reply #4 - Aug 15th, 2007 at 6:53pm
 
Yes, this is a very interesting subject and it concerns all Chow Chow owners and all those who are in the medical pet care.

For those who are not well aware about all these medical aspects in the immune system it is a far from easy job to understand.
I take myself as an example and have to rely on specialists and of course common sense.
It is also a matter of trusting (but critical) your vet.
Lene, I like to thank you for this Topic and within a couple of hours the responses are there. That is a good sign! Thank you also for having contacted me about this subject and last but not least for your kind words!!  Huh Cool Roll Eyes
Also thank you Ted, for sending me the article which appeared in the German Chow chow Club magazine.
And also thank you Ef and Sherrie for your quick responses!

Yes, Chow Chows are our concern!!! Always!!  Smiley Smiley Smiley

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Reply #5 - Aug 16th, 2007 at 9:25pm
 
This is a very interesting subject to me, too. In the last couple of years I have been getting a publication called The Whole Dog Journal and they have had articles about this. They also believe the titer tests are the way to go, like Sherrie does. It is a law in my state that pets get a rabies vaccine every year, but the rest are not. I am seriously considering bringing this up with my vet the next time my dogs go for shots. I hope they are cooperative, this is a different way of doing things, and I'm not sure how they will react.

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Reply #6 - Sep 11th, 2007 at 12:25pm
 
Woohhhh  Shocked

Sherrie & Paula,

what is a "titer/titre" test.
Any other word for it??

Why??
BECAUSE I  actually send my favorite vet (at our animalhospital - whom wife is also a vet and writing in newspapers) these articles. And he actually came back to me and said that I should bring all with me next time I came and that we would take a good talk about it.
And with the above mentioned - then I would really have something to talk to him about...wauuhh
It could become a very interesting converstaion both for him and me!!  Roll Eyes

Paula, you say that by law in your state you must vaccine against rabies every year.
I think it was the same here in Sweden and still are IF you're travelling outside of the country with your dogs.
BUT there is a vaccine (now I'll just have to look in their passports........here it was) called Nobivac Rabies Vet and this vaccine HOLDS/WORKS for 3 years. This is what my girls are having also because of another reason!
Many of the vaccines for dogs today are filled with mercury (quicksilver) in amounts that we don't allow on humans....but we allow them in puppy & adult vaccines???!!!!  Cry
AND the vaccine I wrote above don't have any mercury in it and it holds for longer - isn't that good??
It is allowed to use this and wait the 3 years here where I live!
Maybe something that you can use in persuaying your vet and state  Wink to use better vaccines that are holding longer.......well, one can always try...  Cool
Sherrie, when I read what you wrote you - I reached out and gave you ONE BIG HUG! I hope you feld it.
I hope I can get further with this here were I live - it's very important for me because of every dog/animal are in my heart...
I'm a wired middleaged woman - totally screwed up  Grin Grin Wink
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Reply #7 - Sep 11th, 2007 at 6:34pm
 
Dear Lene,
  I'm sorry, Our dog rabies vaccine is for 3 years. It is the one for cats that is every year. I will try to find some of the articles I have read and give you more information. I'm at work right now so will have to check this out later.

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Reply #8 - Sep 12th, 2007 at 2:13am
 
Hi Lene,
  A titer test is when a vet takes a blood sample from a dog and has the blood tested for the presence and strength of the dog's immunological response to a viral disease. If the blood contains satisfactory levels of vaccine titers, the dog is considered to be sufficiently immune to the disease and not in need of further vaccination against the disease at that time. there is a good article about vaccinations in The Whole Dog Journal, June 2005. Their web address is www.whole-dog-journal.com I'm not sure if you have to subscribe to read some of the information or not, but I have found this publication to be a great resource and very interesting. Good luck!

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Reply #9 - May 4th, 2008 at 8:42pm
 
My Big Boy is due for his annual rabies shot next month.
This will be his 4 th trip  to the vet.
After every visit, he seemed weaker and slept alot for 2-3 days.
I am thinking of foregoing the vaccination that is done at the same
time and maybe even opt for the lower dosage Heartworm drug
(which I have read to be a kind of poison) because my chow boy is
only 5 lbs above the range of the lower dosage.
This winter I asked an elderly man how come his dog was no longer
barking at us. He replied that returning from the yearly vet visit his dog
collapsed going up the 6 steps leading into his home, lost consciousness
and died within an hour. He was a black Spitz type dog, like a collie  
except bigger and the tail curled up.
I will be asking about the "titer test" and welcome any thoughts.
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Reply #10 - Oct 6th, 2008 at 12:22pm
 
An old subject...

These are my vaccinations rutines:
Puppies are vaccinated against parvo at 8 weeks, before leaving for their new homes. After that they are vaccinated against distemper at 12 weeks and again at 12 months. After that I do it every four years. Distemper is very rare in Sweden, so the risk of catching it is very slim.
We don't have rabies in Sweden, so I only vaccinate for that if I plan on bringing the dog abroad. So far only one of my dogs is vaccinated against rabies. First she got Nobivac which holds for 3 years, but when I came back the vet said they had changed to Rabisin that needs to be done every year, because many countries require yearly vaccinations and Rabisin was said to be the best.
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Reply #11 - Oct 6th, 2008 at 9:59pm
 
Yes Jessica...an old subject...

But still very important.

Thank you for your response and how you handle it these days..
Vaccination...the yearly check and protection measures....

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