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Message started by Mika and Suki on Aug 14th, 2008 at 1:25pm

Title: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Mika and Suki on Aug 14th, 2008 at 1:25pm
Hi everyone!

I just wondered if anyone had the same problem as I seem to have with both of my chows, and that is that they are constantly wet and smelly underneath their chins!  Suki is cream and hers therefore looks a lot worse, as her fur is black where it's wet and doesn't smell very nice at all!!!  Mika never used to be like that as a puppy, but from about 5 months old, now that her hair is longer, she seems to be very wet and smelly underneath too.

I've tried affixing a water bottle to the wall for them, but this is not very good as it doesn't give them enough water when they are hot and desperate for a drink.  So then I bought an adjustable stand with 2 bowls on, which can both be adjusted to separate heights (see pic)



This doesn't seem to work either.....in fact, it actually makes them wetter I think because they dribble more as they walk away!!

At the moment I've been drying Mika with a hairdryer (which takes forever!), and then putting a powder shampoo on her fur which doesn't require washing off.  With Suki I'm having to put her in the bath every couple of days and washing underneath her chin completely, then drying her with a hairdryer.

I have been advised to shave them underneath by a breeder, but I don't really want to do this as I think it spoils their beautiful looks.  The only other alternative that I can think of would be to put bibs on them during the day whilst they're at home, but I can't imagine that this is very comfortable for them, especially in the summer!

Any suggestions guys?

Many thanks,
Nicki
xxx

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Ef_Deal on Aug 14th, 2008 at 2:09pm
I believe your two lovelies are producing their sexual "perfume."  Shadow gets this going in long strands of drool anytime there's another dog around, or if I walk him in an area where a lot of dogs have been walked and have made their mark.  His beard gets soaks and sticky, and the mucus in the saliva really does stink.  In fact, a lot of his chew toys and his blanket have the same smell (I do wash his blanket, though!).

When we first got Shadow, he put up this smelly drool constantly.  I'm guessing because he wanted the house to smell like him so he could feel at home.  But he rarely does it anymore, even for other dogs on our walk.  He doesn't do it for Moonlight, pehaps because she's sexually immature, but he does do it for our son's dachshund when they visit.  That's what makes me think it's a sexual thing.

What can you do?  When Shadow really puts up a smell, I wipe him down with clear water and brush him out.  I used to use a grooming dry shampoo spray, but the perfumey smell of that stuff was worse than the doggy smell, so I stopped.

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Ef_Deal on Aug 14th, 2008 at 2:10pm
By the way, where did you get that wonderful two-dog feeder?

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Mika and Suki on Aug 14th, 2008 at 3:13pm
Hi Ef,

I'm not sure whether it is the 'sexual drool' you mentioned.  I've watched them both and when they're both completely dry (and clean!), they drink out of their bowls and their fur dips in the bowl while they're drinking.  They then walk away from the bowl and they are literally soaking underneath.  I try and dry them with a towel whenever I'm there, but they still stay wet underneath.  Obviously the more they drink the wetter they become, and then they go and play outside and end up getting dirt in it, which is where the smell is coming from I think.  It smells like a dirty cloth!

This is why I tried the adjustable height feeder, as I thought the higher the bowl was, the less chance there was of them getting soaked, but it doesn't seem to work, as like I say, when they walk away from the bowl the water just drips all over their chest.

I think the only solution would be to shave them under their chins, but I REALLY don't want to do this :( as I love that furry ruff that sits around their faces!  It gives them that lovely lion look.

I bought the feeder off ebay.  I searched all over the internet and couldn't find one which had separate height adjusters........all the others had twin bowls but they both had to be set at the same height.  I've just had a look to see if the ebay shop is still selling them, but they only have the same height ones in stock.  I think they only post to the UK too, but here's the link to their shop and you could always ask.

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/South-Coast-Pet-Supplies_Dog_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ9319971QQftidZ2QQtZkm

Best wishes,
Nicki
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Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Lovechows on Aug 14th, 2008 at 4:30pm
Nicki,
My black boy used to wet himself when he had a drink.
He smelled like an old mop.
I used to wipe him with a towel after he had a drink.Then I would use Johnsons dry foam shampoo.
It smells very nice.You can get it from most pet shops.
I would never ever shave your beautiful chows.
Don't tell people in the chow game a breeder as advised you to do that they will go mad. ;D ;D ;D
Shirley

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Mika and Suki on Aug 14th, 2008 at 5:28pm
Hi Shirley!

The dry foam shampoo sounds good!  I have the Johnsons dry powder shampoo but their coat has to be completely dry before I can put it on, so it kinda defeats the ojbect of a quick fix!  Can you put the dry foam shampoo on wet fur or does it have to be totally dry like the powder one?

Yes I definitely don't want to shave them!  It would break my heart!  :'(

Nicki
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Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by DutchChow on Aug 14th, 2008 at 5:35pm
Hi Nicki--,

It sounds easy....
But keep it dry with a towel and rub very well.
Make it custom to dry each time when they drunk.....

No detergents....

Peter

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by ursel on Aug 14th, 2008 at 6:24pm
Hi Nicky,

the idea of shaving my hairy old lady Sini is stomach-churning to me as well as using detergents or perfumes.
A dry towel and a brush are okay for my Sini!



Ursel

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Lovechows on Aug 14th, 2008 at 6:44pm
Nicki,
You can use it on wet fur.
I didn't use it all the time .Like people on her say rub it with a towel.
It was just when Chang smelled.
You are lucky I know a lot of chow people who say their chows paw all the water out of the bowls. ;) ;) ;)
Ursel,
What a beautiful girl Sini is.
Shirley

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Mika and Suki on Aug 14th, 2008 at 9:46pm
Thanks guys - I wouldn't use it all the time, just like Shirley said, when they get smelly!  

They did used to paw their water bowls now and again when the weather was hot (which is not very often in the UK!!!  ;) ), so that's another reason why I bought them a stand to put their water bowls on.  Now then can reach fine for a drink, but can't get their big paws in there!    ;D

Ursel - Sini is beautiful!  Couldn't you just look at chow pictures all day?  I adore them!  Such a stunning royal breed!

Nicki
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Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by ursel on Aug 14th, 2008 at 11:01pm
Thank you Shhirley and Nicky!
Yes, I think all chows are beautiful, aren't they :) :) :)?!!!

Ursel

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Lovechows on Aug 15th, 2008 at 12:17am
Nicki,
I have been making some enquiries and I have been told these are very good.
http://www.roadrefresher.com/
Shirley

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Mika and Suki on Aug 15th, 2008 at 1:56am
Oh thank you so much Shirley!  I spent hours searching for something like that and couldn't find anything!  I've ordered one straight away, so I will let you know how I get on!  Hopefully this will be the end of my little sweethearts having stinky beards!!!!   ;D ;D ;D

Nicki
xxx

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Chinas Joy on Aug 15th, 2008 at 2:17am
Hi Nicky,
The water bowls are very handsome and work very good. Because of this top they only have a small round to drink from, so there is less space to dip their fur in.
It helps, but when it is very warm weather they let go the last water which they have into their month. You have to watch though because by a puppy the water gets to the skin.
It can get red there, kind of looking as eczema, which is irritating for the puppy.
If that happens I would not shave it, what you can do is cut it short just beneath the month.
From one side to another, just that peace, into the form of a little half moon.
It does not matter it is puppy coat and changes anyway, also if you do it the right way you will not even notice it!!!
Unfortunate is that puppy coat is like cotton they suck water up, the adult coat keeps it more away.
Here I place pictures of Romy, I’ve cut her the way I said, because even with the special bowl she gets wet! (When it’s very warm and humid)

Lissette.


Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by DutchChow on Aug 15th, 2008 at 9:13am
An interesting subject..... :)

We all know the term 'no iron'.....when we talk about cleaning laundry.
It is mentioned in many of my white shirts... So, no need for using the flat-iron..... ::) Happy me! ;D
Talking now about the coat of our Chows there is also a kind of a 'natural' mechanism which helps keeping the coat in good condition. I often call the coat a 'no-washing' dress. Meaning it cleans itself.... :-? ::)
The skin and the coat and all the micro-organisms there are in a kind of 'balance' with each other.
There is also a certain acidity on the skin.
It is also fact that there is a fatty base in the coat and on the skin. It is a kind of natural barrier for all what is coming from outside direction skin.
When that fatty base isn't there e.g. water can easily affect the skin.

So applying detergents (like in shampoo) or 'dehydration stuff' will have a negative effect on the 'micro flora' and the 'fatty base'. The result can be: Inflammation/red spots since the 'barrier' is gone.

Be it a puppy coat or adult coat the principles are the same.
Wash the coat only when it is really necessary.

The idea of the bowl is great and for the rest keep the area dry with a towel.
Also what is important - in particular for puppies; Frequently groom (comb, brush)!!!
When you don't do that the coat (scowl) will look 'rope like' (rasta) easily allowing 'dripping'.
Once wet and soaked all kind of dirt easily will be abosrbed.
The coat - also for puppies - should be "airy/fluffy". Aerobic conditions (oxygen!) and not anearobic (non oxygen...making the stink!!!!) conditions!!

Now when the skin is red already follow the suggestion of Lissette. Don't shave but cut away parts of the coat there and let mother nature do the healing (when only some red spots).



Peter






Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Mika and Suki on Aug 15th, 2008 at 11:03am
Hi Lissette!

That sounds like a good plan!  I don't think that I dare do it myself though, so may take them both along to the groomers.  I will take a picture of your Romy with me so they know what I mean!  By the way, Romy is absolutely GORGEOUS!!  I just want to pick her up and cuddle her so tightly!!

Hi Peter!

Thanks for the good advice!  I know what you mean, and this is why I don't want to keep shampooing them all the time as I know it's not good for their skin.  It doesn't really bother Mika when she's wet underneath, but little Suki scratches all the time, so it is obviously affecting her more.  Hopefully this new bowl will do the trick, and if there is any kind of excess water dripping onto their fur, I should be able to dry it quite easily with a towel.  

Who is the beautiful chow in your picture?  He or she is very handsome!  Did you cut under his/her chin too?

Nicki
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Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Chinas Joy on Aug 15th, 2008 at 11:39am
Hi Nicki,
Thanks for the compliments on Romy.
I think a groomer will know what you mean, certain when you explain the reason why.
The advice you’ve got with shaving is probably meant in the same way as I explained to cut it. That is also done, but when you don’t have the experience to shave and also not the chow, you can end up with a lot more shaved off than planned!!!
For me it is easy talking about shaving and cutting because I am a groomer my self and had a grooming salon for dogs several years.

I think what Peter meant is when it is already red and this can only get worse by the water and by hair sticking together, then you cut the hair away on that spot.
So that nature can do his work is that the air can reach the spot dry it and heal.
Not all chows have this, I’ve got a brother of Romy and he was always dry!!
Romy is more spilling the water, let it go out of her mouth instead of swallow it.
And I see often even when you groom them properly the wet puppy coat can cause irritating on the skin.
The bowl helps and the cutting helps but depending on the puppy it will not always completely stay dry.
There is no way you can stop them to let go the water out of their mounth!! 

Lissette.

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Lovechows on Aug 16th, 2008 at 1:36am

Mika and Suki wrote on Aug 15th, 2008 at 1:56am:
Oh thank you so much Shirley!  I spent hours searching for something like that and couldn't find anything!  I've ordered one straight away, so I will let you know how I get on!  Hopefully this will be the end of my little sweethearts having stinky beards!!!!   ;D ;D ;D

Nicki
xxx

I am going to order one also.
Shirley

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Chinas Joy on Aug 16th, 2008 at 3:04am
Hi Nicki, Shirley,
I forgot to mansion, there are 2 different materials for the bowl. One is plastic and the other is steel, they both work the same.
Only the puppies (some adults too) like to chew on the top of the plastic ones and will ruin it.
A long time here were just the plastic ones, I’ve got a steel one now and like it better.
It is also a handy bowl to take with you in the car, it is a non spilling bowl.
Lissette.

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Mika and Suki on Aug 16th, 2008 at 10:37am
Hi Lissette,

When I ordered the bowl it didn't give me the option of whether I wanted a plastic one or a steel one, so I'm presuming by the picture that I will receive the plastic one.  Suki will probably chew it as she's into chewing everything at the moment!  But Mika will probably leave it alone!  I'll let you know how I get on anyway!  

Thanks again!
Nicki
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Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Lynne on Aug 16th, 2008 at 8:49pm
Hi Nicky, sorry for my late respons.

All my Chows were drinking from the same waterbowl  as
yours. The blacksmith was making the standards, but very
special was the steel lid. It just covered the bowl, the openining
is 12 centimeters. They can drink, but the chin keeps dry.
On the picture the bowl and lid are seperated, because mom
was drinking milk at that moment from a small bowl. The lid
has three small clips, to avoid falling down.
Happely Lynne is a very clean drinker, so I don't use the
lid for her. But when ever she has a wet chin I first dry it
with a towel and then the hairdryer.

I think every blacksmith can make it and you can use the
bowls on your pics..

Greetings from Holland, Ted and Lynne





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Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by ursel on Aug 16th, 2008 at 11:22pm
What an awesome picture of a special scene Ted :)!

Ursel

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Lovechows on Aug 17th, 2008 at 1:58am
Ted ,
That is one great picture.
Shirley

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Mika and Suki on Aug 17th, 2008 at 12:21pm
Thanks Ted!  And what a lovely picture of Lynne and her naughty little puppy underneath!!   ;D

Nicki
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Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Lynne on Aug 17th, 2008 at 8:26pm
Hi Nicky,

No this is not my Lynne, that was my bitch Lao-Mu-Chin Kwei-Jang,
born in 1994.  Lynne is from the same well known breeder in Holland.

The little boy was from my own second litter. Now is he is not so little
anymore, an oldy from 10.5 years, but still going strong :) :) :)
His nickname is Boef, knave. In Holland it means naughty boy ;D ;D

Greetings from Ted


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Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Mika and Suki on Aug 17th, 2008 at 8:32pm
Hi Ted!

I love Boef's nickname!!!   ;D   ;D   ;D  Is that a picture of him all grown up?

Nicki
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Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Lovechows on Aug 17th, 2008 at 10:35pm
Ted,
He reminds me of Khan.
He is handsome.
He has the same colouring as Khan.
Shirley

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Lynne on Aug 17th, 2008 at 11:00pm
Hi Nicky,

Boef is born in 1998, the picture has taken in 2006 and
yes he is still alive. So are two sisters, Bella and Baila.

Yes Sirley he looks indeed like your beloved Khan, he
only has a white tail and behind ;D ;D. I am still shocked
that Khan isn't there anymore. I always said, he looks like
my beloved Pandiboy.

Greetings from Ted and Lynnechow.

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Mika and Suki on Aug 20th, 2008 at 11:24pm
Hi everyone!

Well, just thought that I would let you know that the new 'Road Refresher Bowl' arrived this morning, and what a difference already!!!  Suki is only slightly wet underneath her chin, but Mika is completely dry as she can't fit any of her fur in there when she's drinking!  What a relief!!!  I am just about to go online and buy another one, but wanted to let you all know that for anyone suffering with the same problem, these come highly recommended!!!

Shirley - Thanks again for finding these little gems for me!!!  They're brilliant!!! :) :) :)

Nicki
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Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Lovechows on Aug 23rd, 2008 at 12:05am
Nicki so glad they worked.
Ted,
I know life isn't the same without Khan.He was my big softy.
Saying that he I could walkanywhere anytime and know he would protect me.
He is the only chow I have ever had who used to give kisses.
He used to try to give the judges in the show ring a kiss.
Even the night he was so poorly when we rushed him to the vets he tried to give the vet a kiss.
He was always in computer room with me at night.
Shirley

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Mika and Suki on Aug 23rd, 2008 at 12:44am
I just got a big lump in my throat reading about Khan with the vet   :'( :'( :'(

It's so, so sad, and as morbid as it may be, I am absolutely dreading the day when I have to say goodbye to my girls.  I honestly don't know how I will cope without them.

Nicki
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Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Lovechows on Aug 23rd, 2008 at 1:10am
Nicki,
We all loved him so much but we wouldn't want him back to suffer.
We got the news Khan had a tumour at 2am in the morning after the scans and xrays.
We where getting ready to go to the vets the morning after and this is what we saw through our window.It was over the vets where Khan was.
Keith said there is an angel watching over him and these where the only clouds in the sky.

Shirley

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Mika and Suki on Aug 23rd, 2008 at 1:44am
Oh Shirley, now that has definitely made me fill up.  :'( :'( :'(

I think Keith was right.......they definitely look like angels wings to me.

I know what you mean about not wanting them to suffer, but I just think that it's so hard to say goodbye.  We had to have our family dog of 13 years put to sleep about 5 years ago, and it was the hardest thing I've ever been through.  It took me a very long time to stop grieving, and even now I still get upset sometimes when I think of him.  He was such a lovely little thing.......so loving and placid.

Nicki
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Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by ursel on Aug 24th, 2008 at 3:14pm
Nicky and Shirley,

lots of years ago I had our first chow Wuschi put to sleep at the age of nearly eleven.
On my way back home from the vet without my beloved Wuschi I could hardly see the road  -  tears were in my eyes and running down my face.
The rest of the day I was sitting next to the phone waiting/hoping the vet might call and tell me Wuschi wasn't dead but had just been anaesthetized that she, the vet, could operate on her ...  a totally unrealistic behaviour of mine:( :'(.

Ursel




Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Mika and Suki on Aug 24th, 2008 at 4:18pm
Hi Ursel,

I know it should sound silly that you waited by the phone for the vet to call, but I can totally understand why you would do that.  It's very hard to come to terms with the fact that they're not there anymore........so very hard to believe that you will never see them again  :'(

We just have to enjoy every minute with them while we can, because although losing them is one of the hardest things you have to go through, the happiness and love that they bring us inbetween makes it all so worthwhile.

Nicki
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Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by DutchChow on Aug 25th, 2008 at 11:35am
Ooh, loosing a Chow Friend.....
It has such an impact on us humans; but not only on us.
Also on the whole pack, when more Chows are around.
We have seen it when we came home without Kaya on July 16, 2008 and how Shadow, Xiong and Kiang were wondering....
It took a couple of weeks before 'the pack' went back to 'business as usual'.
Kaya will never be forgottten.....
Nor will be her grandfather Pau Lin and cousin Beer.

Peter

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Lene on Aug 26th, 2008 at 10:07am
I just need to give you another VERY GOOD bowl - I have 2 of them. One in my car and one in the house.
It's the spill-proof original Buddy Bowl at the following page they have good pictures of it: http://www.thepamperedpetmart.com/page/TPPM/PROD/TFC1/BuddyBowl
The best pictures I could find in a hurry.

My Willi is a terrible "dribber" too and dribbles all over - no matter what.
Other times at shows for example he gets so excited and concentrated that he forgets to dribble??!!
He is only 9 months old and it comes and goes - more or less. I don't wanna say what it smells like - but holding him under his chins = go and wash yourself  ;)
When it's much I use a dish-towels around his neck - that has to changed 2-3 times a day where I have to run around in the garden to find the old one since he is playing a lot, if he isn't rolling in smelling mushrooms (smells like vinegar) so all of him smells like I don't now what and he is really proud of himself until I take him into the shower .... :-/
Therefore I was quite interested in the first part of this issue that I read and about it being some kind of manly smell coming from him.
This also because XaSha gets ciklosporin in one of her eyes and that product makes her dribble but only in that side where she gets the drops ............. and it doesn't smell like his no matter how wet she is - it's just like water (and she also has to wear my lovely dish-towels - she just doesn't has to "be changed" that often)..................

All of this very interesting subject  :)

With Chow Greetings
Lene

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Yvonne on Sep 27th, 2008 at 9:53am
Hi there fellow friend with a wet and smelly chow!  I was just on the internet looking for a solution to the exact same problem with my little 5 month old cinnamon chow; Zion.  I was just wiping him with doggie wipes and then washing him down good at night with a wash cloth, but he is still so stinky!  Today was the last straw for me though when, for the first time I groomed him myself, because my groomer was sick.  I was at one of those do it yourself type places.  When I blow dried his chin and neck, I saw all these sores and irritation!  I'm now afraid he'll get a fungus or something down there.  So just tonight my husband and I put his water dish up on blocks, trying just what you tried.  Doesn't work very well at all.  I'm going to try that one idea of the foam I think.  my other chow; Belle, doesn't have the problem at all, but Belle, although she's a beauty, had an unfortunately long nose.  lol  For this situation, she's the better off for it!  Now that I've discovered this site, I'll stop in and see what else is going on!  My babies (chows) can be seen on my blog:  www.nightingaledesign.org/blog   And BTW, your dogs are gorgeous and your water stand is quite impressive looking!

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Yvonne on Sep 27th, 2008 at 9:57am
Oh, I forgot to add a very important note:  whoever told you to shave your chow is a BONE HEAD!  Don't do it!  It would only grow back and you'd be in the same place, so what's the point?  Anyway, good luck!
Yvonne

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by DutchChow on Sep 27th, 2008 at 12:28pm
Hi Yvonne--,

Thank you for your reactions and telling about your Zion.
Zion having also wet and smelly chins.
Yes, it can quickly irritate there when it stays wet. Important is keep it dry there.

Aah and Belle hasn't that problem because of her nose...... :) 8-) ::)

You are absolutely right not to shave your Chow; only when it is necessary for medical reasons and upon advice of a vet.

Yvonne, may I kindly invite you to write an introduction about yourself and your Chows? Where are you living?
NetChows :: Chow-Chow :: Blue Tongue Talk » :: Forum Stuff :: » Chow

I saw your blog!

Peter

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Mika and Suki on Sep 27th, 2008 at 2:59pm
Hi Lene!  Thanks for the link for another ingenius water bowl idea!  I think they're perfect for our beloved chow chows!  ;D ;D

Hi Yvonne and welcome to the forum!  I think it seems to be a common problem amongst chows, this dribbling malarky!  I have to say though that I bought 2 of the Road Refresher bowls from Prestige Pets, and I honestly don't think that I could do without them now.  They are so much better than a normal water bowl, because not only do they stop the horrible wet and smelly chins, but they are also really handy for travelling with and can be taken anywhere because they simply do not spill!  Mika does still drool a bit when she goes out for walks, but I just wait until this is dry and them I put some Johnson Dry Powder Shampoo in her beard and give her a brush.  This helps to take that awful nasty smell away and make her nice, clean and dry again!  Anyway, whichever method you try, be sure to let us know how you get on!

Nicki
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Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Yvonne on Sep 27th, 2008 at 8:47pm
OK, I'm all signed up!  I've ordered the road refresher bowls, so we'll see how that goes!  Until they come, I've been giving Zion his water by holding it for him and wiping his chin after he drinks...this will get old pretty quick I'm thinking.... :-?

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Mika and Suki on Sep 28th, 2008 at 1:35pm
Hi Yvonne!

Glad you have ordered the road refresher and really hope that it solves your problem!  It doesn't stop all of the dribbling, but it stops around 90% which is a BIG help as far as I'm concerned!!!

Just had a look at your blog and your chows are very beautiful!  Zion is such a lovely colour.  Thanks for your introduction too  :)

Nicki
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Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by abba2u2 on Dec 30th, 2008 at 6:03am
Thank you this is truly the place for chow chow education.......... I ordered a bowl... yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa..

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Mika and Suki on Dec 30th, 2008 at 6:11am

abba2u2 wrote on Dec 30th, 2008 at 6:03am:
Thank you this is truly the place for chow chow education.......... I ordered a bowl... yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa..


I couldn't agree more!!  I love it here and have had so much help from all of the lovely kind, helpful and friendly chowists since I joined!

Nicki
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Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by ChrismaChows on Dec 31st, 2008 at 9:56pm
Hi,
Because I have a cat who cant eat/drink out of plastic  For inside the house there is a water bottle, and also the bowl of water.. The bowl of water I had Tom weld a rod and plate to a metal disk and this works great.. Also if you tight on money, ice cubes work great but you have to replace them.
The road refresher looks great, does it work as well as it looks?
Sherrie

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Yvonne on Jan 1st, 2009 at 5:38am
Personally, the road refresher worked miraculously for me.  Zion used to get a rash from the moisture constantly all over his chin and chest, and the road refresher stopped it.  His chin still gets dribbles, but there's no comparison.  ;)

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Mika and Suki on Jan 1st, 2009 at 8:46pm
It's brilliant Sherrie!  I have 2 in my house now and I honestly can't imagine what I'd do without them now!  

I even take mine to the groomers with me so that they don't get all wet under their chins after they've just been blow-dried!  ;D ;D

Nicki
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Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by abba2u2 on Jan 4th, 2009 at 12:50am
Well, its been one day with the road refresher(buddy Bowl)...... It has kept her drier, but,,,, I have to watch, always checking, and have a towel near by to wipe the little bit she does get under her chin.........I guess, its better. time will tell................

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Lene on Mar 8th, 2009 at 1:39pm
Hi all

I have to ask if she grew away from that?????

You see I now have a little "smelly" lady that can't even drink from a buddy bowl without being soaking wet all the way down the chest and in between and DOWN LEGS TOOOO!!!!

I am actually beginning to think that there is something wrong with her - I don't know what to do.
Yeahh sure dry her with a towel - okay minimum 10 times a day and a new towel every time since the towel is soaking wet after having dried her and she is still wet.
It takes at least 15 minutes to dry her with a hairdryer and she is wet all the way into the skin!
What can be wrong with her??

I thought it was quite a bit with Willi - BUT PENNY that is totally another story, it's like she can't get the water into her moputh and when in it all runs out again!
9/10 of all that comes in goes out - I even thought that she had a hole in her neck/chest - IT'S that much!!
The pictures can't really show how much it is but might give you an idea.
Thanks for any other advices ;)

Best
Lene

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Mika and Suki on Mar 9th, 2009 at 12:16am
Hi Lene

Oh no!  She looks just like my Mika used to look before I bought the road refresher bowls!  I can't believe that Penny still gets so wet after using one of those!  How old is she?  

I think they do grow out of this dribbling stage when they get a little older, however, Mika still gets very wet under her chin when we go out walking.  She always has a frothy mouth and she drools terribly.  I have semi-conquered this by putting a bandana round her neck before we go out.



Maybe you should try putting a bandana or a bib round her neck while she's in the house?

Nicki
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Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Mika and Suki on Mar 9th, 2009 at 12:19am
P.S.  Penny looks very similar to Mika!!  I had to look twice at the picture as I thought it was her!!  ;D


Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Lene on Mar 9th, 2009 at 4:57pm
We've tried the bandana ........ ;)
I have to change it every 5 minutes then it's dribbing wet.
I actually have thought about taking her to the vet asking if this is normal - it's so much more than I'm used to. Her brother and sister dribbles BUT not this much and wet into the skin.
We are going to the vet anyhow on friday (to have Vicki ultrasound scanned) so they might as well look at Penny at the same time. She really has big difficulties getting the water up and into her mouth. I really want to be able to rest calmly that there is nothing really wrong with her.

They do LOOK ALIKE  ;D but Penny is still only 4 months

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by DutchChow on Mar 9th, 2009 at 9:00pm

Lene wrote on Mar 9th, 2009 at 4:57pm:
We've tried the bandana ........ ;)
I have to change it every 5 minutes then it's dribbing wet.
I actually have thought about taking her to the vet asking if this is normal - it's so much more than I'm used to. Her brother and sister dribbles BUT not this much and wet into the skin.
We are going to the vet anyhow on friday (to have Vicki ultrasound scanned) so they might as well look at Penny at the same time. She really has big difficulties getting the water up and into her mouth. I really want to be able to rest calmly that there is nothing really wrong with her.

They do LOOK ALIKE  ;D but Penny is still only 4 months



Hi Lene--,

Your vet sure must be able to find out about the throat. Next to that, what about an overbite of your Chow?
The best is that your vet is making a scopy.

What about putting her water bowl on nose level???

Keep us updated.

Peter

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by teddy97 on Mar 10th, 2009 at 12:59am
Last year Shirley rang me and asked how do you keep your dog chest dry, a road refresher was the answer. I did not know it was for this site she required the answer. ;) ;) We had been troubled with a wet and smelly chest for months, we tried every thing we could, tennis balls in the bowl, but the dog lifted it out and played with it. you name it we tried it.
Our boy was teething and used the cold water to cool his sore gums, he was like a kingfisher  :) lifting the water and thinking it would stay in his mouth.

Then I was told about this so called miricle bowl ::) ::) yeh right, like this will work.

It was the best £10 ever I spent. The very first day we got the bowl, the boy got a bath and presented with his new bowl. It was like heaven, no more smelly chest. Since then we have purchase two more, one used outside & one inside, and a spare in the store.

ROAD REFRESHER A MUST HAVE FOR CHOWS.

BBT'ers should be getting a discount for all the purchase's :) ;)    

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Lene on Mar 10th, 2009 at 2:29pm
Thanks "Teddy"
Just ordered 2 from the UK.
I hope that these may have an influence on her wet ches - but I still let the vet have a look on her at friday  ;)

//Lene

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Mika and Suki on Mar 10th, 2009 at 7:17pm
Hi Lene,

I thought that was what you meant when you said you had the 'buddy bowl' - I thought you meant you had already tried the Road Refresher and Penny was still soaking wet.  Now that I know you didn't mean that bowl, I'm absolutely positive that they will make a big difference to the problem.  They have definitely reduced my chows slobbering by at least 90%!  They're amazing!

Please let us know what the vet says and how you get on when the bowls arrive!!  :) :)

Nicki
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Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Lene on Mar 11th, 2009 at 12:37pm
Hi Hi

:D
Well I have the Buddy Bowl - I got that for a long time ago and it's absolutely marvelous. (I'm talking about the one from the States  ;))
But the Road Refresher looks quite different so why not try it??
I'll do anything to try and get this better and I hate to think that there should be something wrong with her.
It's ordered now and on friday the vet look her over.
Hopefully it all goes well   :-?

But if you think of something else do tell because until I'm sure I can't rest calmly  :-/

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by DutchChow on Mar 13th, 2009 at 2:14pm

Lene wrote on Mar 9th, 2009 at 4:57pm:
We've tried the bandana ........ ;)
I have to change it every 5 minutes then it's dribbing wet.
I actually have thought about taking her to the vet asking if this is normal - it's so much more than I'm used to. Her brother and sister dribbles BUT not this much and wet into the skin.
We are going to the vet anyhow on friday (to have Vicki ultrasound scanned) so they might as well look at Penny at the same time. She really has big difficulties getting the water up and into her mouth. I really want to be able to rest calmly that there is nothing really wrong with her.

They do LOOK ALIKE  ;D but Penny is still only 4 months


Hi Lene--,

Today it is Friday (March 13, 2009) and you wrote seeing your vet.
Did you show him Penny and what was his opinion?

What about the scan on Vicki?

Peter

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Yvonne on Mar 14th, 2010 at 12:53am
Hey everyone, I finally found a real live solution to the wet, smelly mess!  I tried something when I was grooming Zion the other day.  I trimmed his fur back under his chin, at sort of an angle and cut out much of the fur that is wet all the time.  I know it sounds awful, but truly it isn't.  I followed the natural line of the fur, and just brought it in a little bit right there where it always catches drool.  I cannot believe how amazing the result is!  His mane is dry under his chin for the first time EVER.  The chin is still wet, but not the entire mane underneath like it was.  So no more bibs (which caused terrible mats).  No more washing the front of him constantly.  I am so happy.  :D  I wanted to pass that along for anyone else who deals with it.

Also I tried Bio Groom shampoo for 'white' dogs, and it made his cinnamon and white coat just beautiful.  It gleams!  So I'd really recommend that for light cinnamon and cream dogs.

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Lion_Dog on Mar 14th, 2010 at 3:01am
hi yvonne!

can you take a picture of Zion and his new cut?  cocoa gets wet chins too, but not to the point where i can't stand it. but i'd like to see how you trimmed him so i can get my groomer to do it :)

thanks!

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Shane on Mar 20th, 2010 at 12:21am
Question! The two dogs in that have the constantly wet chin, Mika and Suki, do they have droopy flews?

Title: Re: Wet and smelly chins!
Post by Khristiann on Jan 11th, 2011 at 3:17pm

Mika and Suki wrote on Aug 14th, 2008 at 1:25pm:
Hi everyone!

I just wondered if anyone had the same problem as I seem to have with both of my chows, and that is that they are constantly wet and smelly underneath their chins!  Suki is cream and hers therefore looks a lot worse, as her fur is black where it's wet and doesn't smell very nice at all!!!  Mika never used to be like that as a puppy, but from about 5 months old, now that her hair is longer, she seems to be very wet and smelly underneath too.

I've tried affixing a water bottle to the wall for them, but this is not very good as it doesn't give them enough water when they are hot and desperate for a drink.  So then I bought an adjustable stand with 2 bowls on, which can both be adjusted to separate heights (see pic)



This doesn't seem to work either.....in fact, it actually makes them wetter I think because they dribble more as they walk away!!

At the moment I've been drying Mika with a hairdryer (which takes forever!), and then putting a powder shampoo on her fur which doesn't require washing off.  With Suki I'm having to put her in the bath every couple of days and washing underneath her chin completely, then drying her with a hairdryer.

I have been advised to shave them underneath by a breeder, but I don't really want to do this as I think it spoils their beautiful looks.  The only other alternative that I can think of would be to put bibs on them during the day whilst they're at home, but I can't imagine that this is very comfortable for them, especially in the summer!

Any suggestions guys?

Many thanks,
Nicki
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Hi Nicki its the way they drink...my two boys are always like that what I did was I just simply wipped thier chests with a clean cloth and blow dried it after...(I have a blower that is hot and cold I usually use the cold one) and voila cleam chests in no time....

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